Press This Podcast: A WordPress Thanksgiving with David Vogelpohl

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Welcome to Press This, the WordPress neighborhood podcast from WMR. Here host David Vogelpohl sits down with friends from across the neighborhood to focus on the finest concerns going via WordPress builders. The next is a transcription of the fresh recording.

David Vogelpohl: Hey all individuals and welcome to Press This the WordPress neighborhood podcasts on WMR. Here is your host, David Vogelpohl, I toughen the WordPress neighborhood via my position at WP Engine, and I raise to raise the upper of the neighborhood to you hear per week on press this as a reminder, you potentially can safe me on Twitter @wpdavidv, or you potentially can subscribe to press this on iTunes, iHeartRadio, Spotify, or download the latest episodes at In this episode we’re gonna be speaking about what we’re thankful for in WordPress and becoming a member of us for this very particular interview is to myself. That’s gorgeous. I’m going to interview myself for this week’s Press This about the issues that I’m thankful for within the WordPress ecosystem. So I’m actually mad to creep into this very particular time of 365 days. And naturally we dangle our very particular guest here as I interview myself. So let’s creep forward and kick it off. First ask David. I’d raise to impeach you that I asked all of my friends is briefly checklist me your WordPress origin narrative. When used to be the first time you extinct WordPress?

David Vogelpohl: Successfully, thanks, David. Successfully, I instruct the first time I extinct WordPress, it used to be potentially I instruct it used to be around 2006 teen it used to be 2006 and I used to be doing a guest put up for the blog marketing and marketing and marketing pilgrim which has since been bought that I trust damage down however it absolutely used to be founded by a gentleman named Edie Beale and I used to be doing a guest put up and the guest put up used to be about Panama invading Europe. No longer the nation of Panama however reasonably an advert platform known as Panama that Yahoo used to be launching an advert launched within the US after which they are going to originate it in Europe. So clearly a truly kind of a click on Beatty headline there however that used to be the first time I got to exhaust repressive Here is a poster after which therefore you already know continued my hurry with WordPress within the raze constructing actually owned and operated WordPress company for 5 years earlier than within the raze becoming a member of WP engine the effect I’m nowadays.

DV: That’s actually frigid k, so your first origin narrative, David, it wasn’t esteem constructing with WordPress however reasonably as a poster.

DV: Yeah, that’s gorgeous. No, I didn’t firstly form esteem the Drupal around that time and clearly gaming however insights and issues esteem that. But my first skills yes used to be as a booster.

DV: Okay, k, that’s large frigid. Now, you talked about David, despite the proven truth that, that you’re now in WP Engine he kind of your company part for a while there and now you’re dedicated. Could well you checklist us a dinky bit bit about what you invent at WP Engine?

DV: Yeah, gay to um, I’ve done a lot I trust over the I instruct it’s esteem six years now or something since I joined WP engine however what my position is nowadays is as VP of enhance for the SMB facet of the industry which is the finest facet of the WP Engine industry. We even dangle a truly wholesome and rising mission facet of our industry, however my remit is on rising the SMB facet of the industry so my team’s contains our product marketing and marketing and marketing or besides to our SMB marketing and marketing and marketing approach or concerned in all of the assorted ways that clients and web page traffic and funnels circulation precise via the on-line to your industry. work a lot with our product groups, our lengthy duration of time product approach, after which clearly, esteem corporate approach and rollout issues esteem that. And naturally, deal of engagement with my friends and varied other folks within the WordPress neighborhood which actually makes it easy to to host this podcast, attributable to you already know, there are deal of oldsters within the ecosystem.

DV: That’s large frigid David thanks for sharing that. I’m definite other folks paying consideration to the podcast gorgeous. We’re wondering a dinky bit bit extra about what you invent at the aid of the scenes here at WP Engine. So thanks for diving in there. I are looking to shift gears now a dinky bit bit despite the proven truth that, into kind of the vital focal point of nowadays’s podcast which is around what you’re thankful for the WordPress ecosystem. Even I’m actually helpful odd, esteem I’ve heard a lot on this gift about other folks to your thoughts on usually the positivity it’s likely you’ll presumably well dangle, I instruct across the workers ecosystem, however esteem a number of the property you talked about a lot is kind of the beginning nature. of the neighborhood it’s miles that a number of the situation’s you’re thankful for.

DV: Why yes, actually it’s miles now thanks for asking, David. I actually like that. Yes, the beginning nature of the neighborhood and actually, within the kind our accepting it does of others is with out doubt a number of the the #1 issues I trust I’m thankful for in WordPress. , I trust a number of the issues that stands obtainable is essentially helpful how beginning the neighborhood is to original other folks. I suggest I’ve been in digital marketing and marketing and marketing and builder depraved communities within the past earlier than WordPress and however I felt it used to be continuously esteem this test if you started taking part.

DV: In varied words, you needed to understand every thing completely and you needed to dangle a high stage of skills in thunder to participate. And it used to be esteem this edifying barrier earlier than you potentially can beginning kind of diving in and taking part within the neighborhood attributable to of this fear of now not being accredited. Or pronouncing the immoral part.

DV: And a number of the issues that in actuality stood out to me as I got into the WordPress neighborhood used to be actually how beginning other folks are to other folks who be part of the neighborhood and original so it’s k. All individuals has their first day and it’s k that you’re studying and you don’t know all of the bits and bobs and tricks yet. And now not handiest is it k within the WordPress neighborhood, however it absolutely’s inspired other folks soar gorgeous on board to encourage that original individual out, encourage them learn encourage them continue their hurry, and that this used to be actually beautiful to me how prevalent that used to be within the WordPress neighborhood. And I trust that’s a number of the tip issues I’m thankful for, which is how beginning the neighborhood is into accepting other folks accepting them for who they are, however also helping them continue their hurry of studying to form with WordPress. I trust that’s a number of the finest components of the WordPress ecosystem.

DV: Nice. Nice. Successfully, you already know, I’m able to’t fetch it must entirely agree. Needless to claim. It’s an improbable share of the WordPress neighborhood. Are there any varied beneficial properties of how esteem the neighborhood interacts collectively that you watched you’re in particular thankful for?

DV: Yeah, effectively, I trust, you already know, esteem I talked about, the part that stood out used to be, you already know, other folks being actually beginning about welcoming original other folks into the neighborhood. But I trust a number of the assorted issues that in actuality stood out to me as I began to utilize with other folks used to be actually the stage of cooperation and collaboration that occurs between opponents. I even dangle large friends and colleagues that work at varied hosts. And here is clearly, a daily and deal of industries. And within the cause is that draw in WordPress, I actually feel is clearly, the beginning nature of the neighborhood and the truth that we’re all kind of contributing to the same stay in deal of how. It’s all in our relieve. If WordPress is grand, it’s all in our relieve the neighborhood Gris, it’s all in our relieve if we work collectively collaboratively, collaboratively, to creep the efforts and initiatives and neighborhood and ecosystem forward and to grow up increased. And that collaboration is clearly, now not actually helpful within condominium, it’s also within companies, it’s within plugin companies, and clearly they compete and clearly, they’re to test out to preserve the industry of the target market as finest they are able to and it’s now not continuously finest, however again, kind of getting aid to that in actuality beautiful facet of original other folks becoming a member of the neighborhood and welcomed in. All once more, this this blueprint that opponents would actually work collectively closely, and in large ranges of effort in thunder to take out a frequent final result that in actuality stood out to me and I safe it actually compelling share of taking part within the WordPress ecosystem. And I’m actually, actually thankful for the stage of cooperation that competing corporations and individuals dangle within the WordPress ecosystem. I trust it’s a number of the finest components. Very, very thankful for that.

DV: Successfully, that’s awesome. Yeah, I instruct that is kind of a fab share of the WordPress ecosystem day to day. And that’s entirely regarded as that earlier than, however it absolutely is often kind of a orderly share. It’s actually difficult to hear your point of view there. Now, you’ve talked to loads in spite of every thing about the neighborhood itself, however I used to be presumably wondering if we are able to also presumably kind of swap gears a dinky bit bit into extra of the tactics that we’re investing in, learn extra about what you’re thankful for there. But we’re gonna preserve conclude a snappy crash, and we’ll be gorgeous aid.

DV: All individuals, welcome aid to Press This WordPress neighborhood podcast on WMR. Here is your host, David Vogelpohl, I’m interviewing myself for a truly particular Thanksgiving episode around what David votable is thankful for within the WordPress ecosystem. Now, David, gorgeous earlier than the crash you had been speaking about components of WordPress. That you just had been thankful for, and in particular the neighborhood, the beginning nature and the draw in which is accepting it as of others, the kind you had been kind of surprised, however also we’re thankful for the cooperation between opponents practicing a frequent purpose. I blueprint that used to be actually frigid. But now I kind of are looking to dive into extra particulars relative to what you’re thankful for roughly deliver WordPress itself. Now what so so I instruct that can presumably well be that standout part that you watched you’re thankful for roughly the WordPress device itself?

DV: Yeah, you already know, there’s deal of components of WordPress that I you already know, clearly I actually fetch pleasure from or safe beautiful or large reliable and, and clearly, esteem with any varied device machine, there’s there’s something I dislike or wish used to be a dinky bit better, gorgeous, clearly, that occurs with all of the instruments we exhaust in our life. I trust the percentage that kind of stands out for me concerned within the WordPress device, and I trust here is kind of one of this double edged sword conditions, however actually is it’s dedicated to backwards compatibility. WordPress, in my mind, a edifying share of the cause it’s accomplished forty three% of the on-line and continues to gobble up market share in that draw. I suggest, absolutely the truth that it’s free and beginning are edifying components of it. But sustaining SAS and in a plot making certain success for those older sites, is share of what clearly helps it build market share over time. And if they didn’t invent that, then these older sites would originate to break and clearly the ecosystem would originate to within the good deal of now clearly, the double edged sword of lacking within the event you’re playing any developer, clearly, you already know, what I’m speaking about is esteem, however I don’t are looking to preserve you already know, making my device backwards relevant for extra and additional, you already know, iterations of WordPress and clearly, there are issues the effect backwards compatibility in a plot it’s likely you’ll presumably well argue is is now not likely. So older versions of PHP that are patched anymore, so on and so forth. But clearly, within WordPress, there is that this stage of backwards compatibility, even at the aid of on occasion supported versions. of underlying device. In disclose that’s large for sites that don’t crash. But, clearly, can beginning up varied concerns. But I trust the percentage I’m thankful for, is that commitment in the direction of backwards compatibility and I fetch it’s a sturdy exercise and it’s now not continuously large clear. As you watched about what you ought to quiet and shouldn’t invent for backwards compatibility. But I’m very grateful for that the those that form with WordPress can depend on it. And that WordPress has had this recognition over its total lifetime of helping to be obvious we raise other folks along and invent our finest to now not, you already know, abandon other folks at their dwelling. I invent think there’s a direction responsibilities from us as those working words, WordPress sites to preserve our device updated. I trust that’s incredibly crucial. On the WP Engine platform, we be obvious all of our clients are unpatched versions of PHP patched versions of WordPress, however it absolutely’s actually gorgeous. I trust the backwards compatibility is a robust power in WordPress, and it’s entirely a number of the issues I’m thankful for.

DV: Successfully, that’s actually difficult, David, you already know, deal of oldsters, clearly, bemoan the backwards compatibility, however it absolutely used to be difficult to hear that you had been you’re thankful for that.

DV: Yeah, entirely. I trust it actually helpful gets aid in thanks for asking the ask, David. I trust it actually helpful entirely gets aid to the percentage of now not leaving other folks at the aid of is such a needed share of the WordPress ecosystem. In disclose that’s that’s why I blueprint I used to be thinking.

DV: that’s actually frigid, David, thanks for sharing that. I are looking to shift now a dinky bit bit into presumably what you’re thankful for via WordPress contributions. , presumably on the monetary facet, or even esteem other folks’s careers, it’s something that esteem helped me realize esteem, some varied areas, in particular on the fee facet. You’re thankful for it within the WordPress condominium.

DV: Yeah. That’s an very neutral precise ask. , I trust esteem, you already know, a lot, a lot potentially many of the broad majority of oldsters the utilization of WordPress, you’re the utilization of it for some kind of financial endeavor, gorgeous? They’re the utilization of it to toughen their industry. First, there’s deal of personal bloggers and issues esteem this, however the wind shear power, it’s likely you’ll presumably well name to mind some medium to invent some kind of digital commerce in a draw or the assorted. But I trust there’s also an animated share of WordPress. I actually feel from the monetization point of view that folks don’t continuously necessarily take into accout, however that is the profession direction that I trust that WordPress delivers for folks. As many of the listeners of this gift now, I instruct, you already know, there’s a spectrum of oldsters that form with WordPress and it’s, it’s very accessible for the non technical deal of clearly, corporations within the WordPress condominium are referred to those that form WordPress sites with handiest plugins topics and the editor, put up and page editor with block editor. As assemblers, gorgeous. Of us are now not the utilization of code they’re kind of assembling a dwelling with a plugin and theme in, clearly, stutter itself. And powerful of oldsters, including myself, after we first got into WordPress, here is how we fetch to form. After which clearly, over time, you’re esteem, effectively, I want to edit this. I want this to search varied. So you beginning doing CSS and HTML, after which I want this to characteristic differently. And you potentially originate to learn code snippets and a dinky bit bit of PHP. And within the raze, you potentially fetch to the purpose we’re in a divulge to abolish your possess theme and most likely even again, your possess practical utility device. In varied words, a plugin the effect it’s likely you’ll presumably well originate to enter what we had WP Engine at the least, we name the engineer direction. And here is what I suggest earlier, after I talked about that the WordPress neighborhood used to be beginning is esteem, it’s likely you’ll presumably well dangle these large engineers, and you are going to even dangle these assemblers, and so all of them gift up at work camps and stuff, and all individuals’s supportive of all individuals else. It’s a aesthetic moment. But I trust again, within the event you watched about it from a profession point of view, it’s a aesthetic platform for rising your capability to form and optimize digital experiences and websites. And we seek for it occur repeatedly and repeatedly and over. I suggest, even on this gift, David after I hear you hosted per week you asked that what’s your origin narrative, and esteem so deal of them appear to beginning with esteem, I used to be at a burger joint. I used to be in college and doing stuff on the facet. I had a utterly varied job that I didn’t esteem and I took the passion facet and my friends asked me to form one for them. After which I started charging, after which I built a profession after which I stop my varied job after which I even employed any other folks and began to grow a industry and presumably I made a plugin, however it absolutely’s this large enabler. And I don’t think other folks realize that after they after they first fetch in and beginning constructing a WordPress dwelling and and noodling around. And changing stuff is, is what that can lead to. But within the event you look within the rearview ponder, and you consult with other folks nowadays that speed WordPress operated agencies or WordPress engineers with very high paying jobs, however you is also conscious of it’s deal of them started in that assembler draw. And so seeing that direction and what it offers and the monetary freedom that it offers in diverse ways, freelancing and spending overtime with your family and having alter of your agenda, starting industry and rising that fee and equity for yourself and your family, and absolutely others within your group. All of that is enabled by WordPress. Within the beginning nature of within the beginning nature of the neighborhood and the flexibility to grow.

DV: And so as that spectrum is improbable. And again, it’s share of what ends in forty three% of the on-line, being powered by WordPress, however if you occur to look at the affect that it has to other folks of their lives, I’m so grateful that that is there. And I’m grateful for some very proper causes. Fairly about a those that can relieve from these objects are my friends and other folks even in my family and clearly in an ecosystem that spans your total world. And I trust the stage of opportunity that’s there is essentially helpful improbable. And I trust it’s it’s an improbable share of the WordPress ecosystem and it’s something that I’m incredibly, incredibly thankful for. And all of the those that fetch to relieve from the spectrum and the freedom within the machine itself to learn to form with WordPress, I trust, again, is a huge crucial share of WordPress. I’m actually thankful for that. Noble.

DV: But that it’s a truly gorgeous point, David, thank you for bringing that up. In disclose that it’s this idea esteem I instruct you’re pronouncing esteem it’s going to even be esteem a non technical individual assembler, usually compact, you already know, putting collectively as I look into topics, all of the finest technique to engineer and, you already know, I don’t I instruct that is an efficient point. Admire I trust deal of oldsters invent name to mind themselves on esteem one part or the assorted, and don’t necessarily continuously peer that hurry. That used to be a truly, actually gorgeous part to be thankful for.

DV: Thanks for bringing that up, David, actually difficult. I are looking to dig deeper, powerful extra and kind of take into accout WordPress and kind of a future sense or perchance a extra world sense. But we’re gonna preserve conclude our final crash and we’ll be gorgeous aid.

DV: Hey, all individuals. Welcome aid to Press This the WordPress neighborhood podcast and WMR. Here is your host David Vogelpohl. We’re within the center of a truly particular Thanksgiving episode the effect I’m interviewing myself about what I’m thankful for in WordPress. Alright, gorgeous earlier than the crash. David used to be telling us that he is thankful about the spectrum of capabilities within WordPress and the draw in which it helps other folks with their profession kind of going from a the same the same to engineer I blueprint that used to be slightly frigid.

DV: So David, encourage me realize despite the proven truth that, esteem in a broader sense, you already know, via deliver the future or actually helpful I don’t know WordPress at clear esteem there are varied areas that you watched you’re thankful for. Spherical WordPress.

DV: Yeah. , the future is humorous, gorgeous? Because it’s continuously changing. My profession, Digital’s started in 1996, and it’s humorous I remember thinking, that first month, man, I wish I had gotten into the on-line within the gorgeous former days. And naturally now in 2020. When thinking aid you’re esteem, Oh, here is silly, David. You had been you had been within the early days, the gorgeous former days. And naturally, many issues changed since 1996 Applied sciences changes. I remember shortly after that time constructing my first flash dwelling, and flash doesn’t exist in that draw anymore. In some so many issues dangle changed over the years. As I look at WordPress and its dominant share on the on-line, you originate to take into accout esteem, effectively, what does the future take? I trust share of what the future holds and I trust we’re starting to seek for this preserve conclude Route extra and additional is expansion in particular in non English speaking markets.

DV: WordPress has a large neighborhood of polyglots who must translate it translate sources. And naturally, there’s there’s anchors of communities and non English speaking international locations, however I trust that’s going to be a truly clear opportunity for enhance one day. used to be very gay to seek for WordCamp Asia, getting ready to kick off gorgeous there earlier than the pandemic, Christian Dimmick, kind of uprooted that no lower than as a dwell tournament. And actually mad to seek for that reach aid and the vitality that’s going to occur there. But I’m actually thankful for, again, that openness within the neighborhood, leading the paths around kind of world expansion, in particular in non English speaking markets. But as I also take into accout WordPress is world affect. All once more, I trust the the chance that gifts even in English speaking international locations is quiet large, and there’s quiet a ton of awkward Tindie there. Needless to claim, the ecosystem of WordPress is terribly clear, and there’s 1000’s issues, 1000’s documentation and instruments clearly, I’m very thankful for that. And I’m actually in particular thankful for the free or the very least the freemium with large fee draw of the WordPress ecosystem incredibly thankful for that. And I trust from a world sense is terribly as we beginning to take into accout WordPress kind of rising within international locations the effect presumably it hasn’t grown earlier than. One amongst the areas that stands out to me as a guest David, you interviewed now not lengthy ago here on Press This, Mary, Mary Jo, and the work she’s doing around you already know, constructing and in helping to nurture WordPress communities within Africa, I blueprint that used to be actually frigid. And we seek for pockets of that going on, you already know, in varied world components across the world. So again, I trust you’re gorgeous to impeach that ask. Admire, I trust the world affect of requests is with out problems certainly something that I’m thankful for. Successfully, that’s large frigid. Truly concerned to hear about the world affect game and thanks for sharing that. I don’t are looking to fetch aid to the chance facet. , there has been a effectively off custom of entrepreneurship and WordPress and you already know, 1000’s other folks kind of environment up requests to these agencies.

DV: I’m actually helpful odd esteem, what your thoughts are on the entrepreneurial facet of WordPress?

DV: Yeah, yeah, clearly a lot going on there. I trust esteem usually individual thankful for the entrepreneur entrepreneurial alternatives that are readily accessible within WordPress alternatives. I got to merit from myself after I owned and operated my possess WordPress company, very profitable. And I trust, you already know, heaps and 1000’s varied agencies obtainable push in accordance with plugins, topics, companies and products within WordPress, absolutely issues esteem web hosting company anecdote now. And I trust I trust for for the alternatives that are readily accessible there for entrepreneurship and I trust within the event you look even actually helpful prior episodes of press this what’s been going on within the neighborhood, you already know, acquisitions are certain in each place. And that’s a aesthetic validating point for folks running WordPress agencies nowadays. And I trust that’s an improbable part. And so while there’s a keyhole and it changes and shifting, now, clearly, other folks with varying ranges of opinions on varied acquisitions, however the actuality is that exercise passion is gorgeous for WordPress entrepreneurs. And I trust that’s a aesthetic share. We’re very thankful for that. And the alternatives that it’s offering the ecosystem. And naturally, I instruct actually helpful a actually helpful a closing part I’m able to claim I’m thankful for with WordPress, absolutely the alternatives and the openness. The #1 part for our total lifelong friends, I’ve made a edifying share of who I’m as an particular individual, and I’m very, very thankful.

DV: Oh, that’s a large point. David, that used to be improbable. Thanks so powerful for sharing what you’re thankful for David, actually love it.

DV: Thanks for being on the gift nowadays.

DV: Oh, thanks, David. I actually love it. With any luck having aid one time. Thanks for having me. Good. Good. Yeah, we’ll entirely will need to dangle you aid. Alright, within the event you’d raise to learn extra about what David is as much as, you potentially can visit WP Engine comm thanks, all individuals for paying consideration to press this WordPress neighborhood podcast on W Mr. All once more. This has been your host David Vogelpohl. I toughen the WordPress neighborhood via my position at WP Engine and I raise to raise the upper of the neighborhood to you per week Press This.

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